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Losing My Mind Over High Fuel Pressure!

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#1 ·
I'm working on an 88 240 that runs rough at idle. Stupid me, I didn't check fuel pressure to start and did all the normal tune up stuff, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, clean TB, etc. Still idles rough. Checked fuel pressure and it has over 70 at idle. That explains the sooted plugs.

So, I get a bosch regulator which has the same numbers as the one on the car and no change. The regulator says 2.5 bar on the side and I wonder if it is the wrong part. As a shade tree test I pulled the regulator off and attached a big piece of hose and pinched it with varying pressure and the car began to idle perfect.

So, I suspect the regulator is not doing it's job. I broke my vaccuum gauge/pump so I can't manually apply vaccuum or even test how much is getting to the regulator. I'm going to try and borrow a pump but in the mean time does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks.
-Chris
 
#2 ·
The regulator is rated for 35 psi above intake manifold pressure. The line pressure should be at it's lowest when the vacuum line is connected to the regulator.

You should be able to blow through the fuel return line, any obstruction in the return line (kink, etc) will cause high pressure.
 
#3 ·
QUOTE (robert240 @ Mar 28 2012, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The regulator is rated for 35 psi above intake manifold pressure. The line pressure should be at it's lowest when the vacuum line is connected to the regulator.

You should be able to blow through the fuel return line, any obstruction in the return line (kink, etc) will cause high pressure.
I tried with the return line unhooked and an piece of hose running into a gas can. The pressure remained high, around 78psi.

I just bought a new vacuum pump with a gauge so I will check it out tonight. Fingers crossed.
-Chris
 
#4 ·
Here is what I found:
The engine vacuum at idle bounces rapidly between 10 and 16 in/m. This leads me to believe in a sticky valve. I applied a steady 21 in/m to the new regulator and the idle smoothed out considerably but there was still a noticeable skip.

I think the blown regulator caused a over rich condition leading to coking the valves with carbon causing one or more to slightly stick, lowering the vacuum signal to the regulator and compounding the problem.

Does this sound like a reasonable diagnosis?

If so, does anyone recommend a good way to clean the valves of the deposits without pulling the head? Maybe running injector cleaner sea foam like product in the oil? Product recommendations anyone?

Thanks.
-Chris
 
#6 ·
QUOTE (robert240 @ Mar 28 2012, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The regulator is rated for 35 psi above intake manifold pressure. The line pressure should be at it's lowest when the vacuum line is connected to the regulator.

You should be able to blow through the fuel return line, any obstruction in the return line (kink, etc) will cause high pressure.

I'm having the same problem with an 89 240 DL, replaced both pumps, regulator and filter and I'm still receiving around 80psi, I disconnected the return line and connected
a different hose that just dumps the fuel into a bottle and applied a steady stream of vacuum using my pump, to see if pressures would change and still nothing
 
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QUOTE (moparmerv @ Mar 29 2012, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here is what I found:
The engine vacuum at idle bounces rapidly between 10 and 16 in/m. This leads me to believe in a sticky valve. I applied a steady 21 in/m to the new regulator and the idle smoothed out considerably but there was still a noticeable skip.

I think the blown regulator caused a over rich condition leading to coking the valves with carbon causing one or more to slightly stick, lowering the vacuum signal to the regulator and compounding the problem.

Does this sound like a reasonable diagnosis?

If so, does anyone recommend a good way to clean the valves of the deposits without pulling the head? Maybe running injector cleaner sea foam like product in the oil? Product recommendations anyone?

Thanks.
-Chris clean your idle control valve the piston inside may be sticking,clean with throttle cleaner or WD 40