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What are the differences between the two? I am interested in getting one and I just wanted to know what makes the R an R? I know the braking is different but I want to know if there are any internal engine mods. or are the differences all bolt ons?
 

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get the R. more power. the T5R became the Turbo after 96, i think
. either way, the king of the hill is the R. if you can swing it, get that one. only the T5R as a collectors car if it's in mint condition. oh wait, my eyes are going, i misread your question. the t5r was the first for volvo. it was the king of the hill. smoking fast in the day. then they came up with the R and the t5r became the t5 or turbo. basically the same car, the t5r came in three colors, two of which you can find in the US, the third was a europe only color. the two colors here were a pale yellow and black. the europe color was a dark green, almost like a british racing green. the t5/turbo came in all the colors. get the t5r if you want a collectors car, otherwise, in my opinion, just get the t5 and mod it. others might say different, but to me, keep it as a collectors and mod the regular one.
 
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QUOTE(chucksrt @ Aug 31 2008, 09:22 AM)What are the differences between the two? I am interested in getting one and I just wanted to know what makes the R an R? I know the braking is different but I want to know if there are any internal engine mods. or are the differences all bolt ons?
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They are essentially the same (just watch the hostile reaction this statement will provoke from R owners) but, on the R model, the EMU computer is tweeked to make the turbo hold in for a bit longer than the T5 ECU, giving the R a few extra horses when the go-pedal is held flat to the floor.

Performance wise - the end result is almost negligible.
 

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in the uk T-5 225 bhp, T-5R 240 bhp, R 250 bhp. (manual)

The T-5 is a fast comfortable family car.

The T-5R has a new front spoiler, limited edition interior, stiffer suspension, uprated ecu, larger wheels which make it a really fast not so comfortable family car with pretty good handling for a large car.

The 850R volvo claim was not a direct replacement for the T5-R, but a new car in it`s own right. they gave it a new interior, slightly bigger turbo and gave it a "slightly more comfortable suspension" than the T-5R. which resulted in uk car testers not being able to achive the acclaimed volvo performance figures - too much wheel spin. a quote from autocar "in the real world the 850r is no different from the T-5.

Get a T-5R
 
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QUOTE(rob_russ @ Aug 31 2008, 09:54 PM)A quote from autocar "in the real world the 850r is no different from the T-5.
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Exactly the point I made.

Why get an R when the T5 is a far more comfortable vehicle?
 

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Hehe.

But i thought the T5R became the R?
And not that the T5R became the T5?
Hmmm...

Better for me, if the latter is the case, i guess.
 
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QUOTE(ampangbear @ Sep 2 2008, 11:58 AM)Hehe.

But i thought the T5R became the R?
And not that the T5R became the T5?
Hmmm...

Better for me, if the latter is the case, i guess.
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Apparently the reason the brains-trust at Volvo ended up abbreviating the title of the Bosch Motronic 4.3 fitted-out Volvo 850 Turbo to T5 only, was simply an acknowledgement of the fact that, at that time, American car buyers basically disliked the appendage 'turbo'.

The 850 (T5/Turbo) was the first Volvo model to roll off the production line with active boost control (i.e. ignoring the few 760 Turbos especially made for the Italian market).

In 1995 Volvo brought out the T-5R (with the ECM tweaked to give a 30 second over-boost) and, in 1996, the first 850R saw the light of day.

The ECM for the automatic 850 Turbo/T5/T-5R remained exactly the same, however the manual version 850R had an upgraded ECM that handled the extra air flow required to produce 250hp.

To achieve this, Volvo fitted the manual 850R with a new ECM (eliminating the 30 second over-boost of the T-5R) and, as a result, the manual 850R produces 250hp and 350Nm torque at all times.
 

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QUOTEWhat are the differences between the two?

Well, if you're talking about the actual model designation, the first difference is the year. The T5-R was only available in 1995, and a T5 was only available in 1997. I assume we're talking about US models. Below is a copy of something I posted in another thread.

To give credit where credit is due, I pilfered this off Wikipedia.....

"1993:

850 GLT ($24,800 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm

All 1993 850 models were badged GLT, regardless of equipment. Many options (leather, sunroof, and more) were bundled into the Touring package.

1994:

850 ($24,300 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
850 Turbo ($29,985 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

The base 850 sedan includes the same headlights, front valance and front and rear bumper as the 1993 850, while all other models, including the new wagon, get revised headlights, front valances, and front and rear bumpers. The GLT badge is dropped, although all the same equipment is available. The 222 hp Turbo sedan and wagon, as well as the normally aspirated 168 hp wagon, are new models this year.

1995:

850 ($24,580 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
850 GLT ($27,110 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
850 Turbo ($31,045 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
850 T 5R ($35,545 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

The GLT badge returned for the 1995 model year, so there were now sedan and wagon versions of the 850, 850 GLT, 850 Turbo, and 850 T-5R. The T-5R was the new high performance model, with more power stemming from ECU tuning, and special suspension, trim and wheels. In addition to the introduction of the T-5R, changes included new tail-lights for sedans, optional side airbags, new interior switch-gear design and several other detail changes.

1996:

850 ($26,125 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4700 rpm
850 GLT ($29,200 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
850 Turbo ($32,650 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
850 R ($37,925 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

Changes this year include a revised power door lock system, new exterior colors, and full OBD-II compliance. The T5-R high performance version became the R in 1996, but the performance differences remained relatively the same.

1997:

850 ($26,710 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 168 hp (125 kW) @ 6300 rpm and 162 ft·lbf (220 N·m) @ 4500 rpm
850 GLT ($31,835 MSRP): 2.4 L I5, 190 hp (142 kW) @ 5100 rpm and 199 ft·lbf (270 N·m) at 1600 rpm
850 T-5 ($34,500 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 222 hp (166 kW) @ 5200 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm
850 R ($38,685 MSRP): 2.3 L I5, 240 hp (179 kW) @ 5600 rpm and 221 ft·lbf (300 N·m) @ 2100 rpm

For 1997, the 850's final year, all GLT models were increased to 190 hp (142 kW) by pairing a low-pressure turbocharger with the 2.4 L engine. The 850 Turbo model was thence called the 850 T-5, as it always had been in the UK. The 1997 model year was short, as the substantially similar (virtually identical except for superficial styling changes) Volvo S70 sedan and Volvo V70 wagon were introduced during the first half of 1997."
 

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In Canada we had the 850 GLE 94-97 ,which came with the 10 valve version as seen in Europe and other countries. About 143 hp but lots of torque, has a different fuel injection system, somewhat like the GM with a air temp sensor rather than an air mass meter. Also different crankcase ventilation system also. I have one of these cars, it gets excellent mileage and has over 500,000 km, they seem to be more durable than the 20 valve versions.
A great economy version of the car, leather seating was an option also, but cloth was the standard seating and the cloth seems to last longer.
 
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