right. since poor bbt4 has problems pulling him away, and my thoughts are with him, i guess i can have a go at arranging a meet. where's local to everyone? if i get enough names who's up for a play day at silverstone or donnington park? maybe just a gathering in a local pub? i'm coventry area so I can scope a location around here, maybe some music and a pub qwuiz if we head for a local. i'd suggest it happens over a weerkend, maybe sunday when most are free. hope it's better than the last meet since there was only me and bbt4 there! :offtopic: anyway, let's get a date and names agreed first.