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brandon82078
post Dec 8 2009, 05:13 PM
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I have a 2002 S60 2.5T. Recently, I got an error message stating "Position Light Bulb Failure". After researching the topic on these forums, it appears that this is likely a message you get when a brake light is out. I have checked all lights on my car (brake, turning, hazard, etc.) I cannot find any not working. Does anyone have another suggestion?

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post Dec 8 2009, 05:51 PM
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It's not always noticable because each tail light consists of two bulbs - so it may appear that the tail light works alright but on closer inspection you might see that one of the bulbs is out.

Have you also checked the small side markers on the rear lights?

If in doubt give it a thump.
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post Dec 9 2009, 08:12 AM
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Common occurance. If you're getting the message then one of the lights is definitely out. When you replace, splurge on a packet of bulb grease ($1.29 USD) at Autozone. This will increse the life span of the bulbs greatly.
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post Dec 14 2009, 12:36 PM
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I too had/have this problem with me its always one of the smaller bulbs in the rear. There are two of them on each side and they go all the time on my car. One other thing to check is the license plate bulbs there should be two on
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post Dec 14 2009, 02:24 PM
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Nah, it won't be the licence plate bulbs - they don't even bring up a failure message when they blow (neither do the front side light bulbs)

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QUOTE (brandon82078 @ Dec 8 2009, 05:13 PM)
I have a 2002 S60 2.5T. Recently, I got an error message stating "Position Light Bulb Failure". After researching the topic on these forums, it appears that this is likely a message you get when a brake light is out. I have checked all lights on my car (brake, turning, hazard, etc.) I cannot find any not working. Does anyone have another suggestion?

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Found this for ya:

http://www.volvo-forums.com/index.php?s=&a...ost&p=51855

Have the same issue with mine.
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post Jan 11 2010, 12:15 AM
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Just wanted to say thanks for the info. on this forum! I just joined & have already repaired my "position light bulb failure" issue. MINE WAS BOTH LICENSE PLATE FRAME lamps were burnt out. Quick easy fix! Allen wrench & $3.99 + tax at auto zone. Forgot to purchase the grease someone recommended......
Thank You, ibomark
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post Jan 9 2011, 11:21 AM
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I have some words of wisdom for anyone replacing the rear position (parking/running) bulbs. If banging on the lense with your hand is an effective, but not a satisfactory solution and you want to remove the tail lamp assembly, when you loosen the two elongated nuts holding the assembly in place, be sure to pull them off the assembly studs/bolts and set them safely aside before pulling the assembly out of the body. Because the assembly bolts have a long, unthreaded shaft, the nuts will spin freely. If you think like I do, you may think they are held in place by some kind of retainer - NOT. When I pulled the assembly out, the elongated bolts promptly fell down into the space between the body skin and the secondary reinforcing skin that is welded to the exterior skin. After a trip to the hardware store, the purchase of a 24 inch flexible cable with a magnet clamped to the end and about four hours of fishing, I was finally able to retrieve the two nuts. I hope this helps someone avoid the problem. By the way, the bulb is apparently not making good contact again, and position bulb failure is indicated again. I may just go back to banging on the lense....
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post Jan 9 2011, 12:20 PM
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". . . with a magnet clamped to the end and about four hours of fishing, I was finally able to retrieve the two nuts . . ."

Aren't you glad they were made of a ferrous metal !

It took me longer than that to realize that in Swedish, Position Lights = Parking Lights.
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post Jan 18 2011, 08:20 PM
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I recently had the "position light" message. It turned out to be the little red light in the side of the rear light. Further, it is a permanent part of the assembly. So, I had to have the entire assembly replaced. Luckily, it was still under warranty. I bought it at TASCA and they have a 90 day bumper to bumper.

I wonder how much that assembly would have cost if I had to buy it! The service tech told me it was shorted and was melting the plastic...and was traveling further along the assembly.

Just for the record, I also had a bad climate control module which they also replaced. Kudos to Tasca for standing by their warranty.
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post Jan 18 2011, 08:56 PM
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I wonder how much that assembly would have cost if I had to buy it!

Tasca's website for parts will show you the Volvo MSRP and their own retail price to Customers like you (and me).

Tasca Volvo Parts

They often beat out aftermarket Non-Volvo prices.
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post Feb 4 2011, 07:38 AM
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Hi guys! I'm a first time poster, multiple time self help reader! I really enjoy this forum!

Okay, so instead of starting my own thread, I too am having bulb failures. It seems like a magnitude of them. Since I purchased my 2001 V70XC last April, I've replaced countless bulbs, including but not limited to 3 dipped beams, both license plates, both brake, one driver side above brake, and both high beams. Now, to me, that seems a little excessive. At first I thought it was just that they were all the same age and were dying all at once. I've even had the "multiple bulb failures" appear innmy on board direction panel. Te interesting part? If I just leave them alone long enough (and just suffer through the being pulled over for inspection) they generally, eventually come back on. They come back on when they feel like it. It isn't like I've gone over a bump or pounded them with my first. It's almost like it has a mind of its own and is out to become the bane of my existence.

What you will probably say, I hope you won't say because while bulbs are relatively inexpensive, I feel as though I've spent a small fortune and too much time trying to figure this out. It is more than likely a short in the car and it travels down the line from bulb to bulb. That sounds costly to fix, so I'm hoping perhaps you have an alternate explanation?
Thank you so much for your time in reading these and responding post haste!
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post Feb 4 2011, 12:22 PM
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I'm quite surprised to hear that the licence plate bulbs throw up a position light failure - unless things have changed in the CAN-BUS thingy since my 2001.

I have had both side light and number plate bulbs fail with no message what so ever - where as the indicators, dip, main, tail, brake and fog lights all give a message.

The only one that ever gave me real problems were the front indicators - they threw up intermittent failures regardless of what I tried and was eventually solved by replacing the bulb holders.

The last problem I had was not a bulb failure message but a check brake light message and that was intermittent and turned out to be the relay in the boot.

Deadlyne, not really sure that your problem would be a short as such - perhaps there is a fault in the control unit that monitors the bulbs.
Head light bulbs are quite a common failure and often put down to the fact they can be on all the time or get contaminated when fitting.
You say your's seem to come back on - is this all the bulbs or just certain ones?
Do the bulbs look OK when you check them - are the filaments or the glass discoloured?

Not sure there is much you can do apart from using a good quality bulb, making sure the bulb and the contacts are clean and tight - or using the bulb grease to improve the connection.
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QUOTE (Deadlyne @ Feb 4 2011, 08:38 AM)
Hi guys! I'm a first time poster, multiple time self help reader! I really enjoy this forum!

Okay, so instead of starting my own thread, I too am having bulb failures. It seems like a magnitude of them. Since I purchased my 2001 V70XC last April, I've replaced countless bulbs, including but not limited to 3 dipped beams, both license plates, both brake, one driver side above brake, and both high beams. Now, to me, that seems a little excessive. At first I thought it was just that they were all the same age and were dying all at once. I've even had the "multiple bulb failures" appear innmy on board direction panel. Te interesting part? If I just leave them alone long enough (and just suffer through the being pulled over for inspection) they generally, eventually come back on. They come back on when they feel like it. It isn't like I've gone over a bump or pounded them with my first. It's almost like it has a mind of its own and is out to become the bane of my existence.

What you will probably say, I hope you won't say because while bulbs are relatively inexpensive, I feel as though I've spent a small fortune and too much time trying to figure this out. It is more than likely a short in the car and it travels down the line from bulb to bulb. That sounds costly to fix, so I'm hoping perhaps you have an alternate explanation?
Thank you so much for your time in reading these and responding post haste!

change the bulb failure relay.
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