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> Rip Kit, Reverse InterCooler Piping
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post Aug 17 2008, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(TheGreekMason @ Aug 15 2008, 05:13 AM)
you know, the weird thing is, once all the mods that you mentioned, RIP kit, and the cone filter, i DO feel a difference.  then when the ripa mod and the injectors came on board with the new turbo, it was HOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY SSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG CCCCCREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. :grin:  that scared me.  neither the impala nor the camaro scared me as much.  the other R scared the sceaming crap out of me because i had never felt a kick liike that.  even with a 911 turbo porsche that i owned for like a week didn't kick me in the butt like these two.  oh well.  i also do night runs like bear so maybe it is the cooler denser air that we feeling.
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QUOTE(TheGreekMason @ Aug 16 2008, 04:20 AM)
hey piece, the RIP kit is the big silver/chrome tube that runs across the engine, front to back.  it reverses the flow.  and the ripa tune is the scu being retuned. it's a different program from the ipd/mte one.  and yes, a turbo is needed.  even though, from what i have read, there is a program from ipd for a non turbo ecu.  makes a decent amount of power.
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QUOTE(Volvospeed @ Aug 16 2008, 10:56 PM)
We showed a 7-10 hp loss on several RIP kits. Nothing to do with air flow everything to do with materials used ;)
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QUOTE(TheGreekMason @ Aug 17 2008, 01:40 AM)
sorry didn't mean air flow, meant flow of coolant.  and what materials were used that caused the loss?
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post Aug 17 2008, 02:25 AM
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So, if the newer materials are the problemmatic ones, using the old style, original 12-year old RIP (of course, they were called that in the past) should be fine, right?

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post Aug 17 2008, 04:47 AM
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So, if the newer materials are the problemmatic ones, using the old style, original 12-year old RIP (of course, they were called that in the past) should be fine, right?
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post Aug 17 2008, 03:49 PM
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RIP is not reverse really. The original IC pipes were set up this way. But because of the routing the crap in the bottom of the IC can be sucked into the engine. In cold climates this can freeze the throttle plate open.
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post Aug 17 2008, 05:54 PM
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serious? crap, no wonder my R acts all weird when it super cold in ny. i end up taking the impala or the zephyr. that explains A LOT!!!!!
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ok, but im confused, the old style is what? because the rip kit for ipd explained the pipes being reversed. the inlet pipe becomes the outlet, and soforth. this is bad for the motor?
greek, do you have a rips kit doing that up in york? please clear the air here, i have one of those on the list.
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http://www.thevolvosite.com/850/volvo-850-...components.html
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im confused, the old style is what?


Originally the turbo cars had the plumbing routed from the turbo, over the engine to the intercooler, similar to the RIP kit routing. This setup was recalled, for reasons I haven't been able to figure out yet. Maybe due to stuff in the bottom of the intercooler being picked up in the air flow as was mentioned above.

If you look on IPD's website, at silicone intercooler hose kits, you will find the following:

"Not for use on cars that have reverse intercooler piping kits installed or on some early 1994 models that may still have the original over the engine intercooler pipe routing that was recalled by Volvo in 1995."

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ok, volvospeed, i have the angled pipe the 2nd pic on your link. so this is the revised version? why, if its such a problem to the intake, then why is it offered on ipd for such a high price? does it give any good value for the performance? high price to pay to put trash in the engine! best idea is to get a new intercooler while doing the pipes right?
HOW BOUT THIS: a new frontmount intercooler? i have access to this one pictured, it will LOOK cool, but will it function? i planned on this settup, custom piping of course.
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if its such a problem to the intake, then why is it offered on ipd...


I sent them an e'mail a couple months ago and asked the same thing. Never heard back from them.
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QUOTE(swedseed850 @ Aug 17 2008, 05:47 PM)
old Style?
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Hey Swed,

I termed it 'old-style' to refer it to the original Volvo version, like the one Volvospeed referred to in thevolvosite webpage.

And according to the eralier posts, the NEW materials are the ones that actually rob power.

Hence, i asked that if one were to reuse the original recalled setup, in countries without snow etc, maybe that would be better?

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post Aug 19 2008, 03:02 AM
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ok, but im confused, the old style is what? because the rip kit for ipd explained the pipes being reversed. the inlet pipe becomes the outlet, and soforth. this is bad for the motor?
greek, do you have a rips kit doing that up in york? please clear the air here, i have one of those on the list.
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It's called the Reverse Air Piping, cos they basically 'reversed' the piping works from the one that replaced the recalled item.

As for the RIP kit being offered for high price, well i think it was mentioned that its more for the BLING-BLING factor.

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hey swed, when it gets cold in new york, sometimes minus 10 with the wind chill, the volvo acts like it doesn't want to go, it'll start and it'll kick and scream until it gets real warm, like 30 minutes of warm up, before it'll want to go. if it's like volvospeed says, and i have the "new" version from ipd, i'll have to figure something else. like you, i had thought of a top mount like the subies, figuring on turning it around length wise, front to back, and section the hood about 2 inches, almost like the cowl induction hood on my camaro. but the time in fabbing a new hood is, cost wise, an no-go. if your idea is better, maybe i'll try it that way. also, with the roads being so effed up in ny, i can't hang it low like some of the honds guys because i'll just end up mashing it going over the speed bumps that are showing up all over the place. damn those speed bumps.
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yes, i am planning on that IC. but then the route of the pipes wont be a factor right? both hoses will be at the same level at the bumper, and Mason, that intercooler will fit directly behind the bumper with minimum modification. even level with the bottom of the bumper.
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post Aug 23 2008, 08:05 PM
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serious? even with the tranny cooler, a/c, relocated horns, the rad, various birds and small animals that i have run over, it'll still fit? :grin:
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serious?  even with the tranny cooler, a/c, relocated horns, the rad, various birds and small animals that i have run over, it'll still fit? :grin:
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