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> Transmission Fluid Flush?
NCS60
post Feb 19 2007, 09:44 AM
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I just purchased an 01 2.4t with an automatic transmission (non-geartronic) and I checked the ATF fluid (yellow top dipstick), which I noticed was brown. It does not seem to have any transmission issues but I figured since the fluid was black then it need to be changed. From previous posts (search function) it seems you needed 15 quarts of fluid to flush it properly. My question is, should I let the dealer complete this or is this an easy job to do at home? The fluid did not smell bad but it was BROWN....so I am sure it needs to be replaced asap. How much will it cost if I do it myself as compared to the dealer?

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post Feb 19 2007, 11:22 AM
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I just called an independent Volvo Mechanic and was told absolutely do NOT flush the transmission fluid. He said that Volvo had an additive in the ATF fluid and that it was no big deal that the fluid was black. He said most individuals start having problems with their transmissions after a fluid flush or add/drain. It sounded good to me (although hard for "me" to believe coming from my experience with american transmissions in the past) especially since he wasn't making any money off of me for not taking my car to him.....The dealer quoted me $369.99 for a ATF flush....

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post Feb 19 2007, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(NCS60 @ Feb 19 2007, 11:22 AM)
I just called an independent Volvo Mechanic and was told absolutely do NOT flush the transmission fluid. He said that Volvo had an additive in the ATF fluid and that it was no big deal that the fluid was black. He said most individuals start having problems with their transmissions after a fluid flush or add/drain. It sounded good to me (although hard for "me" to believe coming from my experience with american transmissions in the past) especially since he wasn't making any money off of me for not taking my car to him.....The dealer quoted me $369.99 for a ATF flush....

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Why would the dealer have an ATF machine if thery weren't designed to be flushed?
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post Feb 19 2007, 01:09 PM
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:blush: Think I'd call another 'Volvo Mechanic' for a opinion., better yet a known Auto Transmission Shop...I have never seen Black Tranny fluid., burnt smell and darker color yes., not black.....I'am not sure Volvo condones adding an additive to the fluid, possible others might.....Good luck
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post Feb 19 2007, 02:15 PM
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I don't disagree, I am just a little confused with different opinions. As far as the fluid goes, it is dark brown/black and the vehicle has had ALL routine maint. done at the dealer (inlcuding the 60K, 75K & 105K mile services). I went back through all of the maint. records and noticed that at all of the services listed that the dealer checked the Transmission fluid as part of the service. The vehicle now has 106K miles and I was wondering if this should have been questioned at the 105K service? The individual I purchased it from always replaced everything per technicians suggestion but it's strange that this was never an issue brought up by the technician?

Thanks again for all the help!
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post Feb 20 2007, 11:16 AM
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I looked at the fluid a little closer last night and it actually appears the fluid is BROWN and not black. My mistake....(basement is not lighted very well). I still plan on doing a flush at home this summer. Thanks for the help.
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Answers to this are more relevant than ever, as these cars get older. Dealers have flush machines because they are cash flow blessings. Dealers make money if they ruin your transmission, because then they can do the trans swap, or sell you a newer car. Volvo North America has no interest in their transmissions lasting, which is why they do not say to replace the atf ever. If you have experience with cars, then you will know 30k is about the maximum life for conventional auxiliary fluids such as atf. Our S60 had brown ATF at 70k, which is a real shame since some wear has already been caused by lack of proper lubricating fluid. I've been doing an ATF drain & fill at every oil change to slowly and safely get it back to proper atf condition. It's been working fine.

I threw in Amsoil ATF last time, but it was too thick for the trans. I put in Toyota Type-IV this time, and it's definitely good stuff. Was as easy as an oil change with the proper long, skinny flex neck funnel. Anyways, if you want to make the dealer a LOT of money (it is the season of giving) and risk destroying your transmission (I have seen this happen disturbingly often after flushes dislodge all the crap that then plugs up all the trans orifices), then flushing is the way to go.
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