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> 2004 S60 T5: Yay Or Nay, s60 t5
Reliable or not?
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s60turbo
post Nov 22 2012, 08:10 PM
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Hey everyone, im looking to get myself a 2004 s60 T5 5 speed manual and was wondering what to expect in terms of repairs and reliability. I was planning to get a s70 earlier but decided to go with a more recent s60 t5. I found one for sale in my area from 2004 with 120000 KMS (im in Canada) which im going to check out this weekend. From what i have heard, nothing is safer and more reliable then a volvo but others seem to think otherwise, such as unreliable, in constant need of COSTLY repairs. Whos right? Will this be a car i can depend on or one that will eat more parts then gas? And are the parts and repairs on them really that expensive compared to other cars and what parts are generally the ones that go?

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post Nov 23 2012, 01:02 AM
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It depends on the maintenance the car has seen, and how comfy you happen to be with wrenches...

If you have to pay a mechanic for all the love an older Volvo needs, they can bankrupt you. This is true for most any car from Europe, not just Swedish steel though. I have a 2004 S60 with comparable miles and a manual transmission, and here's the repairs I am looking at in the next year:

  • Clutch+flywheel+slave cylinder
  • Timing belt+water pump
  • Brakes+rotors+emergency brake shoes
  • Rear wheel bearings


All told, I am looking at over $2,000.00 USD in parts alone. But the up side is that it works out to $160 or so a month for a fantastic car.

I am only able to afford my S60 because I own it outright and do the work myself. If that works for you as well, welcome to the club, they are awesome cars.
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post Nov 23 2012, 08:25 AM
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Well the woman selling it has all the maintainance records so that's a good sign plus it's not like it's got too many kms on it anyways for a volvo. Is the labor usually the expensive part of owning a volvo or the parts themselves? And I'm good at taking things apart and putting them back together, im definitely mechanically inclined so i will be able to do things that aren't too complicated. Nothing like an engine rebuild or anything buta im sure with Google and videos, i can figure something out haha. Would you buy another 2004 s60t5 or stay away from them?
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post Nov 23 2012, 09:11 AM
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With your having access to the records, I would go for it (depending on price); it's just barely broken in !

What I like about this car is that no one, except the truly initiated, knows how old it is; and in my business (Real Estate) you're expected to always drive a newish car, so what else except a Volvo would be able to pull that off for 222,000 miles. I kept my Saab 9000 for 336,000 miles; but its body couldn't keep up with the corrosive road salt around here.

I think Ford's electronics in these cars will be their downfall . . . . they're very flimsy and the printed circuit boards don't seem to tolerate frequent temperature changes without cracking, that create unpredictable intermittent variations in operation. Regardless f your mechanical aptitude, the electronics are always a challenge, and it's very frustrating when only a Volvo Dealer can diagnose a software problem or install an upgrade.

If your climate in Ontario is similar to ours in Vermont, then be watchful for the ABS Reluctor Rings cracking when weakened by rust (another road salt contribution); and Volvo will tell you that the entire axle will need to be pulled and replaced instead of just the inexpensive Reluctor (or Tone) Ring. I've posted elsewhere on that issue.

I'm getting new shocks and struts installed next week, new Front Brake Back Plates (due to rust); a new fuel filter; and new parking brake shoes (also due to rust), while it's up on the lift . . . . nothing of an emergency nature. I'm a proponent of preventative maintenance, and I DO NOT allow myself to ever be stampeded into purchasing parts without having time to shop around, and my mechanic allows me to bring my own parts . . . . many garages will not do that as they make more on selling you parts than they do on the labor component. I watch for future problems and buy my parts in advance, which has saved me hundreds, or probably thousands of dollars on this vehicle, which still looks like new at 222,000.

Good luck.

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post Nov 23 2012, 10:25 AM
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Thanks for the info, the car I'm looking at is 9g certified and etested and comes with 2 sets of rims and tires for winter and summer. I think that's a reasonable price. The kbb value is around 11g last time I checked. As for the chip, i plan to do an auto tech or similar chip, will that include a new and better ecu or just a reflash on the old original one? The previous owner also had the car undercoated regularly and i plan to keep it that way to help against rust. Also how complicated or straight forward as these cars to work on?

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post Nov 25 2012, 11:31 AM
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If she has good records, you are willing to learn, and the price is right, GO FOR IT.
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post Nov 25 2012, 11:48 AM
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I am willing to learn for sure, and she has the service records so i could take a look at those too and i probably should go for it
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post Nov 25 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Doogwhan @ Nov 25 2012, 11:31 AM)
If she has good records, you are willing to learn, and the price is right, GO FOR IT.

I didn't catch the Asking Price on this 8 year old car; only the KBB which can vary all over the place depending on your locality.

What does the nice lady (who only drove it on Sundays) want for the car ?
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post Nov 25 2012, 06:21 PM
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the price is like 3 posts up haha but shes asking 9g for it and comes safety and etested and with 2 sets of wheels (winter and summer). could probably get it for like 8500 though
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post Nov 25 2012, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (s60turbo @ Nov 23 2012, 10:25 AM)
". . . the car I'm looking at is 9g certified and etested . . ."

I didn't recognize that as a dollar figure . . . . I thought it was some kind of esoteric Canadian testing code word, not a price.
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post Nov 25 2012, 07:42 PM
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Ah ok, forgive me then. That's just how i am use to writing prices...9g = 9 grand = $9000.

Good price?
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